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It was before the swimming pool was down here. I guess they were sort of makeshift softball diamonds or something like that, but basically it was kind of a wilderness. And it seemed to me every year somebody would say, you know let's

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really clean it up and make it a good play area for the kids. But it never seemed to happen. Anyway that would have wingeded it.

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When I was growing up there was a big controversy and discussion about having a bomb shelter put in the middle of the creek area, or down in the bottom of the creek area, And they all talked about it and thought, oh my god, what an

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outrageous idea. Somebody thought it was a good idea? And somehow, it was either a rumor that was without basis or there was basis, but it disappeared

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after a while it was certainly of the time. That would have been the late '50s? Yeah, we came back from France in '57, and I guess we were there for--or you were there for a long time.

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You went to Bannockburn, right? I didn't even go to Bannockburn. They really got everyone there. OK. OK. Thank you very much.

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And we'll come back.