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That's where the steam greats were. We had one client here. Who is dually diagnosed, had a crack addiction and excuse me. He'd be gone for a couple of days and stuff and then he would come back. And remember one time he came back and his shoulder. It was just burnt raw because he was sleeping in one of those steel grades. He probably was high, probably couldn't feel that, he was being burned or whatever or was passed out or something. And he was just burn draw where Medical Clinic how to take care of it. They were very concerned, you know, so in the whole concept of having a social worker type, go out with the police. I think it's good because there are some people who are sleeping out there that, you know, there they just may not have the capacity to be able to realize that they're endangering themselves by sleeping out in zero degree weather, or whatever, you know that, you know, Your you could be getting frostbite and it probably would be able to identify people who are mentally ill and it would have been a great opportunity to be able to, instead of taking these people to jail. Let's take him to st. Vincent's like, er, to give them the help. They need. These are people that we, because you can't give somebody to the hospital unless their threat to themselves or others. So, here's somebody. Who's sleeping on a grill is going to, your got great. He's going to be dragged off to jail and stuff. Now, his behavior. It's done something that's a threat to himself because he's going to be put in jail because of this so you could get them into the hospital. Then. You can get them, like, not maybe, not into the hospital at least to be seen and possibly get the needed. Mental health care that he might need, you know, so, I mean, that's probably was a, you know, possibly part of the theory behind it. Okay, able to identify because for the most part it's people with I think that the people that are sleeping outside, our people would like anti social skills antisocial kind of behaviors or they're mentally ill. I mean because who in their right mind is going to just stay out of the crowds are not going to go in there. There might be some that weren't going in there because you know, they couldn't go in there because they were staying out and getting high and stuff and then they missed the time and they couldn't get in there, you know, so it was their addictions. Keeping them out. Like if that's what Steve was proposing. I think that that's do you think that deteriorating conditions, aside? The shelter's could have played a role?

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Maybe but still when it's cold outside, you would think that somebody would be like, well, whatever, at least I'm inside, do you know? So but maybe somebody with their when their mental capacity is not like up to par or something would make that decision like one that comfortable going in there. So I'm going to sleep outside which is really not a good choice to make when it's really, really Cold outside, you know, I think they start. I mean, I mean, just think that's really cold. Actually this unusually warm in the early part of,

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right? That's what I, that's what I was just thinking because I'm thinking I think we had a crazy warm December. Yeah. You know, I mean, I don't know what that was. But you know, these people, the police didn't want to do that because the in our program, we were at East 55th. So, every night, our van driver with Drive our folks, I remembers the ones that weren't residence here over to the shelter. Well, if we saw officer came up to him because, you know, they're around there and they see Fan, we're bringing our people over there every night and he came up to the van driver. He says, I just wanted to let you know that you need to let your people know that if they end up sleeping on the street that there's a possibility that they get kicked up by the police. There was just the order handed down from the mirror that we got to start arresting. Anybody has caught on

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on the street. So you might want to warn your people. So if they really want to do, I do and even any of the police officers that we had to call for any reason over there and stuff, and we would talk to him about it. You know, and I mean they were just put, it doesn't matter for the mirror. They have to do it, do it. Down there. So, you know, we're just going to go and put somebody in there. So sure actually, I think that was that was true. I believe one of the things And I don't know if this was one of the debates specially going on between lot, I harmed. Brian Davis, they didn't, I want to have a situation where social service providers were identified. I guess the feeling. And a lot of people actually and then speak three minute. I think said, this stuff was felt that somehow or another trying to withhold money or services from him. We'd like to have this as our particular approach. Doing something like this, especially before then switch. And then I think, Brian Davis. Opening their site because they're not sleeping at the virtually brand building anymore. There's the new Mental Health Services took over site be okay? So that they have social worker types that are the ones monitoring a shelter. Now. Open it

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up.