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He wanted me to go with them to thoughts for company and all that physical 67-68. Yes. I do. And we stopped in El Paso, Texas. Never been Express eyes. All the Oscars were Richard, there's always a cheap hotel and but there was what we have. We got a room bearable. You could take on that one time. You didn't have to get the second thought. You can just take off across, you can hit the road at any time ever ever town. And I guess Chicago has one of the most. But every city had several cheap hotels, it really appreciate it at the time. Now you are. You came to Cleveland from West Virginia to point. Fresh Start on the conical of you, make it happen. That was we're not there for the west and my father and I was like my dad. Loaded them. How much they can do you say? Well, I don't know, isn't it too much. And so I can only charge them sorts today. I think increase from board or the other city housing is owned by people. Who really regarded just as a business venture? And they have a certain set, will go some, some of the rents are just outlandish than some of these algae places and that they regarded just like, and if it doesn't pay off, they just get rid of it. I like we do in Rocky. River, can can buy a property in the city gives a property managers 10% off the top and it just like it just like a company. I really think it one time. It was more like his people in the sun in the same area that I still know a few people in Cleveland. Would you give me yours? That's still have, you know, large houses that they rent out to people that they know and they always do achiever. First place. They'd rather acceptable lessons of guy. They're not, they don't get many headaches, some guy. They're familiar with that, right? Today. It's just a real business, which I'm actually just like a stock investment. Now, when you first came, did you rank for? Did you, did you ever buy a house or a never did? Where did You live, like some 17th and haven't. You really are. So if you want another research as abuser, I research source for you. The gross ones on the, they still own that store over there. I recall an herbivore across Missoula nicest guys in the world when we went there. His father was running the store that he saved his Money Vault to store that the first first apartment. He bought was across the street from the store that the Barth apartment and then and now he owns a rather. He did own nearly the whole and really did amazingly well. And then to swallow everything, he can really give you a lot of he began working there when he was a boy. He still looks good. He still in good shape, but he's about 70 now, but he's learning curve, engrossment. These are real real love from the you talking about stole Earth. And that's the primary Store where the guys go for drinks and everything around there. Now. You said, just the other side of the think, Claire Sinclair. Yeah, back in the old days. I think of one time, it was young. just, Sure water, before we moved in. I think when the war started that, they they moved up. And the real deal Wafers. Lodge was on 17th and Lakeside of my time. That was the

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site that that time of the year. So, you live pretty much right, right? The same area. Now. We're most of the homeless services are young. What was that? Like Mike because I told you well wasn't that bad? They had like a box with some small box. And instead of, you know, now that he has the talent event, small blessing is wasn't too proud. But again, seriously, man, and one time, if you could come up the money bro. She chromosome. Where nearly everybody in, that was of that, that that there was there was there were so many cheap hotels and Deceptive anything about it in the correct area. So when you came I started moving you start working with out. How did, how did what did you do after when did you come by to say? Hello. Goodbye, McAllister of the three months that I guess? What? At that time anybody could get a, this wasn't a long as anybody can get a good job. For a while. I never did that old and this is one reason why I've always Wow, mourn. The loss of affordable housing with us. I never imagined the sun is one of those guys with them, settle down. Mow the lawn paid the work. You know, I really think the most guys, think that's the only course in life, in many do, most Americans, do they get the mortgage and they just continue because that's why I really because I like to have tons of time to myself, how to do what I want to do when I want to do. How did you dare die? You know, that reminds me actually, this is another question a little bit, you know, in the times that we've been talking about this you seem to know quite a lot about several lots of different subjects. Do you go there? Often self-education? That's why I love to have tons of time in myself because if you get a job you're going to come on, go to sleep. And that's that, watch the tube for a while and that's it. The only way. You can too, of course rhodium, like if someone would get the good at, would get a degree, go on. Become a professor, you know, then you can, you can still be aware of with the majority of the factory jobs. Take more work. They become part of the Machinery, really always hated that. And so you would take time off to go read. Bugs, are in fact, go to the library. Sure, but there are other things you like your time. One time I was a real heavy drinker at one time. That's why I never saw him to all the other guys because I was a very heavy drinker one time. When would you think that was something else? That was really rich all within the and one time, Cleveland Downtown, Cleveland, tons of cheap restaurants, and she fires and earlier every every city that had Do you remember some of the good good bars are in the bars? Is used to the serosa router Grill. This Sera Le CR Ada, as sa already, a sorority girl on. 20th, 2015, across from the From the police station and instantly East 19th Street really had feed concentration of cheaper apartment since nineteen between pain and you. There was really, when you start, looking up your laps. There was a see the King, Edward, the No, this is just carried on. After the freeways and everything, but there was still plenty of De cheap housing around 19. Pain and Chester could even people out of prospect into in the late 70s, when you start doing your research and you never expect wasn't even into the late, seventies. And that was from the point. You got here. Yeah, that was that. Pretty much the cheapest

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residential neighborhood. Oh, yes and also for another place you're going to happen to check out his other ball of the road. They did all on borrowed, the Archer do We had like chicken wire. Great rotation between the Between kabobs, but there was 50 cents a a night.

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Never did. But I know I can pull several times. But so, so of my friends, all those others. Particularly Dirt Cheap rooming houses and hotels. That was Canada in the area called. I guess you could. But no one that will see this and it was a developer of the borders of our hotel too.

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That was where the people are. Yeah. But they weren't people. I slept outside. Don't forget one time. I saw this one friend. He was the strollers, write that out in the hall. Wayne Rooney, just call the workhouse and I ran into him while the guys have been going to work out for the wind. It's been the winner workouts. And so Wayne and Wayne said that he had he'd slept in 1970 or somewhere around there. Wait, so that they slept in the Eyrie cemetery and so would develop Because

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seriously at that time, that guy's ass about me was almost the but by choice because you could always there to enough money for your friends are bumping up, you could bump it up to us to get a room for a night. You seriously could get there was no hole in, this is something else that you can check in the apartment. And it's have this one does security deposits begin. When did it start asking for that? Because it one time he simply went in a $30 a month rent. And that was it. What the heck? That's the most Insidious thing because Poseidon when you get has a security deposit. Now,

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when did you have any inkling? This window? Not more than 10 years ago. I don't. I don't think your yoga what the research says that man. Okay, but pool. It's a lucky. If the guys working out of Lakeland Manpower. Any of the other camps sudden, you got to have the rent, plus you're going to have the equivalent of one month's rent and security deposit, which you never get back. The always say that. Oh, that does that gets, you know, your will return that to you when you were. But nationally, if you've left a peanut on the floor or anything else, any other excuse you, never get that security deposit back, so really good. It's Getting that room is it was a horror. You get gang of a place. It's a more formal informal tasks that it looks yet. They have to have the security deposit plus the rent my hand Rock. That's about 600 bucks. I was a Cosgrove. Something that delivered me for that. I was a college girl about a year ago and the Gang came from a blue Camaro Champs forward and said he wanted some guy, you know, what wouldn't have two apples. Apple's metal. And there was about 13, guys on the van and on the way back, the driver had he to the squares has to be as worthy want to, you know, like am going to drop you off at your house and all that these guys and they had different Bridges, something that they were sleeping under are different places than the for the were. They were, they were standing and he's in guys that are working and real, seriously, like when I came to the been, even the real change began in the mid 70s, I think. At one time, you could be a dishwasher have any menial, part-time job. And you didn't even think about, you always had a head of here, a little apartment and could drink some and now you can live paralyzed when just a few books. But today, isn't it? Now, did you? What about these temporary agencies? When do they have any always been a one-time would say, what do they run them out of the toilet? What time ago, he felt that it was a frame job. The the wages of the union workers in Detroit was to be strongest Union, City. Of course, I mean, it must be pretty strong as young boy was. So young was the capital of the Union. Of course, I'm glad that was the better about it in the 70s also. Now what happened was that when you were kind of growing bigger? Yeah, and no one printer, think one of the really become accepted winded. Now, more people work out of Timpson than they do love and bloodying something. And that's almost a separate to appeal in the summer. It's all connected. Of course, because how much money you have that? Yeah. I'll never forget that that was because I've been away from it all the while and these guys are working and they're still sleeping. So unreal. Sometime in the 70s. Those are the global agenda. It is all connected. You are right now. I'm still young fact today is where I got to go to. The I got a friend of yours will look more like a worker than I

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really am. I look like a lot of work. A lot of people just don't garbage for several people think of that time, all of the type of thing. Were called Cessna. So I got to see you see a guy adultery. He says he's going to get me some when I leave. What sort of jobs. If you are dead? I worked on the docks for about a year.

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One job that I regret now that I would, I had worked on the railroad three months and those guys are I could not get them really some of the widgets Improvement, but the railroad workers.

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Tell me what was it? This place just ahead on Bella has declined to almost the same. People would prefer a regulars would come in usually and I really wish they were, I'm kind of make a little,

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some places, like give you a feel for their there's a couple hours sleep and that is still remarkably like the old school style bars and Just go in there. It does something else. You get the pillow when you get broke, Apollo, how can you go, any lower?

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Slum, landlords were Angels compared to borrowers are treated. Because bar owners the minute, they were always looking for us. They like to have sometimes you like him. He will do regular sitting cause any trouble to sit around to look at. So there was activity. And I was supposed to get a few of the women there to sit around to look as though it was a little action going to lower some unsuspecting suburbanite. He had to spend his money, you know, any a barber, a lot of guys would want to go into action and Right, so they glow table in some of the writers and they didn't take all the money in them. Set Robin wild with the guy that came in. They said they made slum, landlords of my games today. What you mean, and I just saw this, your, in this hand for apartments. Small boy, far. She's voice all those messy spillage available for Subway in our $60 a month and that's cheaper and I guess just a little bit of red. Because it's really the housing. This there's so many churches now dead and have meals. I don't think in closing. Thank God it. And now, unfortunately, I was, I was broke through all the stretches work. If the console you one time. I've heard you to become salt, what type of clothes that I gotta tell you get busted. We

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don't know. Everybody was too casual. Giving back in the oven. Yeah, we're good. The guys in the truck driving. Try to keep a suitable guy with the tie and everybody wanted to keep a white shirt towards respectable mine finds. Yeah. Yeah, so don't wear jeans. If you are working, Hardest Level 2. It was a guy that we call that I was from, West, Virginia. A real hillbilly that always worried jeans and it looked very, very few people today, you know, there's plenty of food. How was work? Operation the down? There you go. He's really almost taking up home from the Sunday. I'm going down there. Tacos and live. What they want to all week. I got a yoga ball yoga that I love yogurt, and you get too close. But housing is the thing that is just taking them up. Even when you have a place. You're always wondering any kind of that. Curiosity. One or two here. And there are very very, very, very bad view of talking. We call anyone that. It went to the. Free food places. They were really almost non-existent. There were a ton of the old. Hold up the greasy spoon restaurants, on the cheap restaurants, known for really

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serious, man. I don't even think about it. Sometimes, your holidays were not pure closed down. There are soldiers, are so many churches. Now, that our team has won. And there's more opening all the time, too. Salvation at what was the television Army blank? When you are

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a place where guide to go wherever the mind it was a driver. It was real angry when they were goes. I wouldn't he wanted me to go and be in like his helper on his on his truck, you know, is because, if you would stay in the Celgene, get all the clothes. You never have a place to stay and it really wasn't a bad place. Special little guy with the check. You can policies check it because you wouldn't be paying rent. And now that's morning at all. The masalas of always been a pretty good deal. When you sit on their chunky, like to check that the guys are go out and collect furniture and Furniture are like Forest are so young. 20 times today. It's a dormitories. I really can't forgive me.

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Black guys, were the captain so I get all the cattle together. It was a society. There was some there was something, there was something else that made independent while all the hotel but they didn't really begin enforcing those walls until the Civil Rights Movement

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came in between the majority of the owners who could care. Less Long, Long tour guide and And you might get a completely different story, some black girl who was really through it. What's the owners of those cheap hotels didn't care that much of the gravels. No.

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I really didn't spend too much time worrying about your constitutional liberties. Three days on that. I think it without probable cause they run yet, three days that that's happened. Quite a few. The world in the city. And so the told the cops, what the cops really wanted to do all the time. Great, dog. Guess who both? Because the shops closed. Central High School to idea of has a horse of the year. Gravity the pressure. What it means to enforce the integration of all of the blankets in, read a recent articles, on Perry, Central High, in Little Rock. Because of different interests supposed because of them has had the white kids are in the honest that is to say it is more segregated, even they even eat in the cafeteria at different times and almost have different parking lot. Supposedly. Now, you're right now, simple. Hi, little of what argument that was wanted for that wasn't be a water standard for hands, that end of the I'm convinced the throat. I go like when it came to the Americas was always the poor. I was working. I came along just before the George became a cult. After he at one time. Haggard. Your hope and would you go ahead? I think, I Got to be a better mother for your social life. Get rid of him. Have a beautiful day.

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The. Where do I go? For a lawyer started, finally, I'll help out that they had involvement and that they want help the guys at the bottom of the year. Appear thinner, the world, and like the temple. Or the audience where it was in the original route until he said, well, they're probably all the golf course direct selling their votes. For that, in short, the union members it done pretty well. They really became just like, I like the guy who used to see the 80s like those better to do get the end really almost good jobs in the manufacturing of mice and all that. Those who are

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those guys? They get in there and they just want to watch Although me even if they had that. So, that was kind of the power dynamic. Hard times. Think about it.

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I don't have any real demo. Hardly anything to accept over the radio and there was no Prospect Avenue with the. Why would I be able to do what might happen in the future? So, would you? Don't make the 22 book. Okay. I'm trying to okay. Sure. When you? Okay. How did Social Security impact everybody? The majority.

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And it really, it really did a security check at that time. Pretty rare Lifestyle, the current term lifestyle. They got that shit. They were really, like are the Elite. The guy had. Get a vet, check for Social Security. He was really on top of

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them. If there was ever got to try to try to spread the wealth around, you got a bum rap for knows. It wasn't the jumping really did get califano H, ew, the people

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through the program degree of clarity for him through the winter. They are the ones that are probably the ones that it's kind of the same. We're going to get our, what we're going to do freedom. And those are the ones now three-piece suits and they were the ones that are called the shots. I don't care about of things,

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that concern should complain because it was a great society program that opened up the the doors to the economy for everyone that came with this economy is booming economy, seemed to be going forever right now. But that to the health, the health care at one time. What if you would and did you?

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Well, should we call it quits? Take a look at some of the director of development? And he came to North coast harbor. And was the director of North Coast Harvey executive director of North Coast are so we were at that point of project of North coast harbor. was this the main project of the not coast harbor or well, the aquarium was also both both of these and What coast harbor I gave you an annual report? They will that annual report that little Thin Blue annual report? Yeah, it will tell you what their project. And they eventually dissolve the organization. Harbor organization. When I hope some of those documents.