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Hi, I am Angie Whitehurst and we are at the Church of the Epipahny at 1317 G Street Northwest in Washington, DC. And I'm here to interview Kashif Cameron. Hello, nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you too. Can you tell me a little bit about yourself? Sure, I'm recently a graduate of University of Phoenix. I studied industrial organizational psychology, and I'm

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on my way to Tulane University to study international labor law. I recently started a start-up company, CMLC LLC, which aids the government and military in requests for proposals, which aids the community and initiatives.

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Community health care initiatives, um, homelessness initiatives, so on and so forth. We provide assessments. We provide performance metrics.

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We provide performance criteria. We conduct a complete analysis. We provide training and development material, and an online platform like you've never seen before.

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It's a virtual reality platform, and we hope that the Department of Education will be grateful when— once it's complete. That sounds outstanding. Well, thank you very much, I

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appreciate that. I have three of four questions, now I'm going to ask you to craft your answers according to what you're already doing since it is addressing the issue we're talking

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about. Fantastic. So the first question is, what do you think are the biggest causes of homelessness in Washington, DC? Well, I think across the nation

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one of the biggest problems is that we have a failure to retain employees due to culture that has been set as a present— precedents a long time ago. You know, we carry these biased,

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stereotypical viewpoints that we often carry into work. And, um, some of the less fortunate African American, or Asian, or the Mexican, or Caribbean cultures, who enter into the job field or the job marketplace not having everything

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that they particularly need. Maybe not the fanciest clothes or the fanciest car when they pull up to work. A stereotype and a biased opinion is casted upon them, causing an

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issue culturally within the workplace to retain employment. It's not always just training and development. Um, I see that through my own personal experience that a large number of individuals will go into a workplace and feel out of place,

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so to speak, and not be accepted and feel kind of a third party to the developmental and organizational practices that are at work. Um, you know, let's say an

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individual, you know, graduates school, and is struggling with finances, and becomes indigent and under social services, he applies for welfare and so on and so forth. Well, there's questions on our applications that ask, have you

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ever received TANF or general assistance? And I think that that predicates a position where individuals who you might work with in the future are already having a biased opinion. And that transcends down to short retention inside the workplace,

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and an individual who's already receiving food stamps or general assistance then discovers a problem of retaining employment. They then seek a homelessness shelter. They're standing out in front of the pantry or the soup kitchen

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line, further denegregating the image. You know, there is something in the law book, the statutes, the United States code and statutes that we often look into, and we make sure we study it at KMLC LLC.

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Defamation of character is a big deal, so if an individual is sleeping out in front of a bank or a inside of a park and it's after dark and they receive a ticket, already they're, they're denegregated in society to have to

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go in front of the judge, and then people cast an opinion, the court date might extend for a year, so on and so forth. So these background checks are being utilized not so much so to see if an individual would particularly fit as an

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occupational resource, but rather to be stereotypical and create a revolving door that might be a monopoly for the company. Second question, what are the most critical issues that a movement to end homelessness should focus on and why?

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Some of the most critical issues with regards to homelessness that the community should be focused on is ensuring that healthcare providers are trained and develop their skills adequately. We have an ever-changing society.

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We have new emerging technology. We have new emerging treatments. We have a large, uh, I guess you could say a large inventory of new medical equipment.

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So if healthcare providers are unfamiliar with a new hearing aid implant, let's say, and a criminal organization where to obtain a hearing aid implant, and instead of checking the individual for a hearing aid implant because they were sleeping on the street and

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they were sexually assaulted and woke up and couldn't remember, or something of this ilk, these types of crimes happen in society. So rather than checking the individual to make sure that they might not have an electromagnetic frequency emitted from their

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bodies, they're automatically casted into this group or this bundle of people who have mental illness. And that transcends down to homelessness, because from just from that alone, an individual might, you know, go for an

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application for employment within the federal government as a security guard, as a teacher, and their mental health is looked into and they don't qualify. Um, you know, even so much to say

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is, uh, going to a residence where there was a domestic disturbance with the landlord, let's say, and this landlord said, you have to leave the property, and the gentleman refused. And the police aren't trained adequately enough to provide the

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correct kind of healthcare assessments if you ask me. The right questions aren't being asked. The history, the documentation, the cultural—I keep using that word culture and I do apologize—but the cultural

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perspective when a police officer arrives at this type of a situation, um, I believe that it can be handled better. So within KMLC we do have a culture training, diversity training, implicit bias training, making sure that individuals

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aren't being biased towards individuals who are in need of aid and assistance. I'm actually recalling—if you don't mind me being long-winded—my real estate—yeah, I'm sorry about

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that—my real estate education, my professor once said, if you're inside of a property and you have an argument with your landlord, and you're taken from the property by the police and you're held against your will, and you've returned, you returned or you're

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released from your quote unquote imprisonment, and you returned to community and you want your stuff from the residence but there's a temporary restraining order because you've threatened or had some kind of domestic dispute.

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So now here you are with a situation where you're left with a 24-hour window signed by the judge to remove all your belongings. You've left work for a week,

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probably, at a time. So these are real world scenarios, and within KMLC LLC we aim to create these real world scenarios that are hindering the community, to create a training platform

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that's a 3D representation using video and augmented reality of a real-world scenario from A to Z. An individual is is caught in this system where all of their furniture, you know, $5,000 worth

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of furniture is sitting in a home for a week, they're released from this imprisonment and they can't get their furniture, but only for a 24 hour window. And now they're forced to let go

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of the property, so to speak, or the sheriff goes by there and dumps it all on the curb. You know, we've seen this in society before.

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So these are some of the major factors that are playing into homelessness. If we don't rectify these types of situations, where court proceedings and court matters and court rules are part of this

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process, you know, we do have a legal standing with real estate. There is a real estate procedure. We do have the landlord-tenant courts.

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And unless we analyze and assess these court proceedings to determine any knowledge gaps, any problems in the community, any challenges that are being placed on the community members without due process, we're shortcoming or

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providing a shortcoming for our future. You're a step ahead of most people on this issue. I appreciate that. So my next question, which you

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probably really already answered, if you could get 50 people to join you in doing something to end holmessness, what would you have those 50 people do? That's a great question, and it's reminding me of an initiative that has already been started within

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the company. We are attempting to gain some employees from the military to go into abandoned properties, and this is the main objective: to do some deconstruction, cleanup, and

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civil engineering with the new technology we have. We have these great scanning cameras that can be placed in the center of a room and for two hours, just under two hours, you have a 3D representation of a complete space.

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And so if you could imagine going from room to room in an abandoned building, and after a little bit of cleanup, having this camera scan the area. Now we've gone from, you know,

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1950 where we were paying extraordinary large amount of monies to architects and civil engineers with regards to getting plans developed for these abandoned properties, and turning it around and selling these properties to corporate

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industries. Now, we can do this for a minuscule price, very cheap. And with the military's aid, we

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might be able to do this at an exponential rate. Where we go from building to building, we do a quick cleanup, we do a quick scan, we have a 3D representation of a building that's abandoned, and next thing you know it's on the market and

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sold. Um, I'm gonna ask you a question, have you heard about the Harrington Hotel, which closed, which is one of the most historic hotels here in the city.

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Just about every president has been there in later times, not in George Washington's time. Um, and there's talk of people wanting to take that building and turn it into something like you're

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talking about. That's an interesting thought. Well, the first thing that comes to mind is some of the historical institutions that we have in the United States.

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We have some great historical institutions, we have great national libraries, and we have great committee members, and and we do have conferences all year round with regards to historical properties and ways to create archives for databases and so on

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and so forth. The first thing that comes to mind is grants. A lot of congressional hearings

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speak of grant monies and people, you know, thinking it's free money and not using it appropriately, but with a situation like that, the first come to mind is a grant to make sure that the library institutions and the National Historical property committees are

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able to really come together and sit down and think about this. You know, we didn't come to a great nation as one. Polaris--- Plerbis Unum? [laughing] I'm sorry. My pronunciation is horrible.

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You say it more perfectly than I do. Yeah. Out of many is one, and out of one is many, right?

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You know, we have to come together as a community. We can't just come up with these solutions by ourselves. We have to sit down, and delegate, and discuss, and come up with--- provide a complete risk assessment.

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What are the risks? Are the risks that finances might be more than the return on investment? Is the community going to appreciate it or is there going to be backlash? Is there going to be a lack of

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trust or a loss of trust? Because this building is getting renovated as a as a historical building rather than the building down the street, which could easily turn into an apartment complex.

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And I did think a little bit about what I was going to say, so I do want to say this before we get going. Um, if you have a database from

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the Housing Urban Development where you can easily go on, and you can look and browse through all of these apartment complexes, and there's one apartment complex for 65 and plus, but there's 20 for loft style Hilton Realty, which is way out of the price

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range for somebody who is, for lack of better words, uneducated, not completing with a bachelor's or master's degree. The base rent is $2,200, but because it's subsidized housing now, it's only $1,400.

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That only is a little hot [laughs]. You know, if we thought more--- if we catered more to a lower income, you know, this isn't Dubai.

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We don't have billionaires and millionaires running around everywhere in the United States of America, you know? So if we catered more to small efficiencies and we had a bigger list of efficiencies when we went on to this online database

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provided by HUD---which is fantastic, by the way. You're able to see the community from a Google Maps perspective, and click on these blue dots, and it'll pull up a full description of any type of housing that's available.

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But the problem is not how many housing properties are providing subsidized housing. It's the--- the problem is how many properties are efficiency properties?

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We just don't have enough efficiencies That's well said. Last question: if you could build a better world, what would that world look like? I sort of think you answered that already, but.

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I appreciate that. Um, a better world. What would a better world look like? We would use less concrete, first

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of all. We would use less concrete. Global warming is a big deal. We would have more collaboration

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on carbon pricing, creating a better framework internationally. We would use more solar cells, solar cell technology, lithium batteries. Let me put it to you like this.

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We would wrap every electrical line in the United States of America---as a pilot program---with a solar powered strip, just like those calculators you had in school. We take all those strips out and we'd wrap the wires with those

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strips, and next thing you know we have a self-sufficient energy. That's what the world would look like. Where we don't need to utilize concrete as much. We begin to use, different materials that are more

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sustainable and more environmentally friendly. That's awesome. I want to thank you for this interview.

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I'd like to thank you, too. Is there anything that else that you would like to add that I did not ask? No, no, it's been a blessing. It's been a pleasure.

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And I thank you for having me. Appreciate it. It's an honor for you to be here. [laughing] Thank you.